Chapter 11

The Geography of the Dead and the Fire That Is God

Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and the Divine-Presence Model of Hell

A Map with More Than Two Rooms

Ask someone to draw the afterlife, and you will almost always get the same picture. Heaven is up. Hell is down. The good go one way. The bad go the other. Two rooms. That is the whole map.

I once sat with a man who had lost his brother. The brother was not a churchgoer, not a believer in any obvious way, and the family was afraid. "He's in hell," the man said to me, flat and quiet, as if the verdict were final. He meant it the way most people mean it: a place of fire, far from God, forever. No exit. No appeal. Case closed.

But when I asked him where in the Bible he found that picture, he could not point to a single passage. He had absorbed it from sermons, from movies, from paintings, from a thousand assumptions he had never thought to check against the text. And when I showed him the text, he was surprised by what he found.

The Bible does not give us two rooms. It gives us at least four different words for the world of the dead, and those words do not all mean the same thing. They do not point to the same place. They do not describe the same experience. And when we flatten them all into a single English word, "hell," we lose something that matters very much.

We lose the Bible's own geography of the dead.

I suspect that many readers have never noticed the seams. If you grew up hearing about "hell" from the pulpit, you probably assumed that every time the Bible mentions a place of judgment it means the same thing: a fiery dungeon far from God, where the lost suffer forever. But that picture is built on a translation choice, not on the text itself. The Hebrew Old Testament speaks of Sheol. The Greek New Testament speaks of Hades, of Gehenna, and of the lake of fire. These are not synonyms. They belong to different parts of the story, different stages of what happens after death.

Getting the map right changes the whole discussion about the final state of the lost. And at the center of that new map stands a claim that may surprise you: the "fire" the Bible describes is not a furnace in some distant corner of creation. It is God himself.

That is what this chapter is about. We will untangle the words the Bible actually uses for the realm of the dead. We will see that the dead are conscious and aware in the waiting place. And we will meet what the philosopher R. Zachary Manis calls the divine-presence model of hell: the idea that the fire of judgment is God's own love, experienced as torment by those who refuse it.1 This is an ancient reading, rooted deep in the Eastern Orthodox tradition, and it changes the whole question of whether God can ever reach those in the fire.

Untangling the Words

Let me lay out the four key terms. Each one has a real history, a real meaning, and a real place on the Bible's map of the dead.

Sheol: The Realm of the Dead

The Hebrew word Sheol (Hebrew she'ol, "the realm of the dead, the underworld") appears sixty-five times in the Old Testament.2 It is where the dead go, all the dead, both the righteous and the wicked. Jacob expects to go down to Sheol in mourning (Genesis 37:35). The righteous psalmist cries out from Sheol for rescue (Psalm 18:5). It is not a place of reward or punishment. It is the holding room of death itself.

Sheol is shadowy, quiet, and below. The dead in Sheol are not destroyed. They exist. But they are diminished, cut off from the land of the living, the way a person in a deep sleep is alive but unable to act. "In Sheol who will give you praise?" the psalmist asks (Psalm 6:5). The dead do not praise God from there. They do not work or plan (Ecclesiastes 9:10). The picture is bleak but not permanent. It is a holding place, not a final sentence.

Notice what Sheol is not. It is not a place of punishment for the wicked. Both Jacob and the psalmists expect to go there. It is not a place of reward for the righteous either. It is simply where the dead are. Hunter Coates, in his Grace Abounds, puts the point with blunt clarity: Sheol is not the Anglo-Saxon rendition of "hell" that so many want to read into the Old Testament. Almost all the people who have ever lived, regardless of how good or bad they were in life, end up in Sheol. It is the realm of the dead, period.3b The moral separation that later traditions build into the afterlife is not part of the Old Testament picture of Sheol. That will come later, in the New Testament's more developed geography. But even in the Old Testament, a crack appears in the grim picture. God is present even there. The stunning confession of Psalm 139 makes this plain:

Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there. (Psalm 139:7–8)

That verse will matter very much before this chapter is done. If God is present even in Sheol, then the dead are not beyond his reach.3

Hades: The New Testament Waiting Place

When the Old Testament was translated into Greek, the translators used the Greek word Hades (Greek Hadēs, "the unseen realm, the world of the dead") for Sheol.4 In the New Testament, Hades is the waiting place of the dead before the final resurrection and judgment. It is not the final state. It is a temporary realm. And this is where the Bible's map gets more detailed than most readers expect.

In Luke 16, Jesus describes Hades as having two regions: one of comfort (Abraham's bosom) and one of torment. The rich man and Lazarus are both in Hades, but on different sides. This suggests that by the time of Jesus, the Jewish understanding of the afterlife had developed beyond the flat, undivided Sheol of the earliest texts. There are now regions within the waiting place. But it is still a waiting place. The dead have not yet been raised. They have not yet stood before the final throne.5

This matters more than many readers realize. Hades is not eternal "hell." It is where the dead wait. And at the end, Hades itself is emptied and destroyed: "Then Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them. . . . Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:13–14). Think about that for a moment. How can Hades be thrown into Hades? It cannot. Hades and the lake of fire are not the same thing. Hades is the waiting room. The lake of fire is the final state. And Hades does not survive the final judgment. It is consumed.

Gehenna: The Valley of Judgment

When Jesus warns about "hell" in the Gospels, the word he uses is almost always Gehenna (Greek geenna, from the Hebrew "Valley of Hinnom").6 This was a real place. The Valley of Hinnom sat just southwest of Jerusalem. Its history was terrible. It was the site where the kings Ahaz and Manasseh had sacrificed their own children to the pagan god Molech, passing them through fire (2 Kings 23:10; Jeremiah 7:31).7 The prophets cursed the valley. Jeremiah said it would be called "the Valley of Slaughter" (Jeremiah 7:32). By the first century, the valley had become Jerusalem's garbage dump, a place where refuse, animal carcasses, and the bodies of criminals smoldered day and night.8

When Jesus said, "It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to Gehenna, to the unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43), his hearers did not imagine a cosmic torture chamber. They pictured a real valley, stinking and smoking, where the condemned were thrown. The imagery is drawn from Isaiah 66:24, which shows the corpses of God's enemies outside Jerusalem "consumed by worms and fires." Notice: in Isaiah, the dead bodies are being consumed. They are corpses, not conscious prisoners. The fire and the worm are doing what fire and worms do: eating the dead, finishing the judgment.9

This matters all the more when we notice that the Jewish tradition surrounding Gehenna was far more varied than the later Christian tradition acknowledges. George Sidney Hurd observes that the word Gehenna, used to describe a place of fiery purification, arose in the intertestamental period under Persian influence. The early rabbis viewed Gehenna as a place of temporary purification, lasting no longer than twelve months, and most Orthodox Jews hold this view to this day.9c Gerry Beauchemin strengthens the point by noting that at the very first use of the word "Gehenna" in the New Testament, Jesus associated it with the Mosaic code of proportional justice: "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" (Matthew 5:38). If Christ understood Gehenna to be everlasting, Beauchemin argues, he could not have connected it with a code based on measurable, fitting punishment.9d

Jesus took this image and used it with force. But we must be careful not to import more into the image than Jesus intended. He was warning his hearers about the terrifying consequences of sin. He was using the most vivid imagery available in his culture, the way a preacher today might say, "That road leads straight to a dumpster fire." The language is deliberately shocking. The question is whether Jesus meant to build a systematic theology of endless torment on top of it, or whether he was using prophetic imagery to drive home the seriousness of the choice before his listeners.9b

Note too that Gehenna appears only twelve times in the New Testament, all but one of them on the lips of Jesus himself.10 Paul never uses the word. Neither does Peter. Neither does John's Gospel. The book of Revelation uses "lake of fire," not "Gehenna." Hurd drives this point home: in the entire book of Acts, which records numerous evangelistic messages across decades of early church mission, there is not even one warning of "hell." If Gehenna were truly an eternal and purposeless agony to which most of humanity is destined, how can such a horrifying fate go unmentioned in the church's foundational preaching?10b Jesus used the image with purpose. But the rest of the New Testament does not rely on it the way popular preaching might lead us to expect. We should read the image on its own terms, not collapse it into a single English word that erases its Old Testament background.

The Lake of Fire: The Final State

The "lake of fire" (Greek limnē tou pyros, "lake of fire") appears only in Revelation, and only in the final chapters (Revelation 19:20; 20:10, 14–15; 21:8).11 It is the place of final judgment. The beast and the false prophet are thrown into it. Then the devil. Then Death and Hades themselves. And then "anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life" (Revelation 20:15).

The text itself tells us what the lake of fire is: "This is the second death" (Revelation 20:14). The image is of something final and decisive. But it is Revelation's own image, apocalyptic and symbolic, and it belongs in a book that also shows the gates of the New Jerusalem standing open and "the leaves of the tree" being "for the healing of the nations" (Revelation 22:2; see Chapter 9).12

Plain Words: Four Words, Four Places

Sheol (Hebrew): the realm of all the dead in the Old Testament. Not a place of punishment; a shadowy holding place.

Hades (Greek): the New Testament equivalent of Sheol. A temporary waiting place, not the final state. Hades itself is destroyed at the end (Revelation 20:14).

Gehenna (Greek, from Hebrew "Valley of Hinnom"): the Valley of Hinnom outside Jerusalem, a place of child sacrifice and burning refuse. Jesus used it as an image of God's judgment. It appears twelve times in the New Testament.

The lake of fire (Greek): Revelation's image of the final state of judgment. The text calls it "the second death" (Revelation 20:14). It is where even Death and Hades are destroyed.

Most English Bibles translate two or more of these as "hell," hiding the real distinctions. The Bible's own map of the dead is more complex than a single word allows.

Why the Distinctions Matter

When English Bibles render Hades and Gehenna with the same word, "hell," they collapse real differences. The result is a single, blurred picture: "hell" is where the wicked go forever. But the texts themselves tell a different story. Hades is temporary; it is emptied and destroyed. Gehenna is a specific prophetic image rooted in a real valley. The lake of fire is Revelation's symbolic climax, the "second death." These are stages on a map, not synonyms for the same address.13 Samuel Cox, the Victorian universalist whose case Robin Parry records in A Larger Hope?, Volume 2, pressed this point with force: "Neither of these words" — speaking of damnation and hell — "is to be found in any part of the New Testament, or, indeed, in any part of the whole Bible; nor even any word which at all answers to the conception which they quicken in our minds." Cox argued that neither Tartarus, nor Hades, nor Gehenna ought ever to be translated as "hell," and that the uninspired Jewish writings for the six centuries nearest to Christ "know nothing, absolutely nothing" of "hell" in the modern sense.13b

Some readers will object that drawing these distinctions is special pleading, an attempt to soften the Bible's teaching on judgment. I understand that reaction. But the distinctions are not invented. They are lexical and textual. They are there in the Hebrew and the Greek. And recovering them does not soften judgment; it sharpens it. Once we see what kind of fire the Bible actually describes, the picture becomes more terrifying, not less.14

Here is the real cost of flattening the words. If every reference to Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and the lake of fire is compressed into one word, "hell," then the reader has no way to tell a temporary state from a permanent one, a prophetic image from a theological statement, a waiting place from a final destination. The result is a single undifferentiated horror: an endless dungeon. But the Bible does not tell that story. The Bible tells a story with stages, a story in which even the realm of the dead is temporary and even death itself is finally destroyed. Flattening the map hides the story. Recovering it opens the story back up, and with it, the possibility that the fire has a purpose beyond punishment.14b

The Dead Are Not Gone

With the map on the table, we can ask a crucial question: are the dead conscious? Do they still exist as persons in the waiting realm? Or does death end awareness, leaving nothing but a body in the ground until the resurrection?

I am convinced that the dead are conscious and aware. The Bible's own testimony points that way. And this matters for the hope this book defends, because if the dead are conscious, then God's offer of grace can still reach them. If they are not, the question does not arise.

The strongest picture of the conscious intermediate state in the New Testament is Jesus's parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19–31). The rich man dies and finds himself in Hades, in torment. He sees Abraham "far off" with Lazarus at his side. He speaks. He pleads. He remembers his brothers still alive on earth and asks that someone warn them.15

Whatever else this passage teaches, it paints a picture of the dead as conscious, aware, and able to think, speak, and feel. The rich man is not unconscious. He is not annihilated. He is in a place, and he is himself.16

Now, readers have raised fair questions about this passage, and I want to honor them. The rich man and Lazarus is often called a parable, and some argue that parables should not be pressed for doctrinal details about the afterlife.17 That is a real caution. But even if this is a parable, it draws on a picture of the afterlife that Jesus's audience shared and that Jesus himself used without correcting. He did not say, "In reality, the dead are unconscious." He told a story that assumed the opposite.18

Other texts point the same way. Paul says he would "rather . . . be away from the body and at home with the Lord" (2 Corinthians 5:8), and "to depart and be with Christ" is "far better" (Philippians 1:23). These are not the words of a man who expected death to bring oblivion. The dead in Christ are with Christ. They are somewhere. They are conscious.19

And the Old Testament, for all its shadowy picture of Sheol, hints at the same thing. In 1 Samuel 28, the medium at Endor summons the spirit of the dead prophet Samuel, and Samuel speaks. He is unhappy about being disturbed. He knows what is happening in the world above. He pronounces judgment on Saul. Whatever we make of this strange episode, it assumes that the dead prophet retains his identity, his knowledge, and his capacity to communicate. He is not gone.19b

In the book of Revelation, the souls of the martyrs cry out from under the altar: "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" (Revelation 6:10). These are conscious souls. They remember. They plead. They wait. The intermediate state is not silence. It is filled with persons who still have voices.19c

Ladislaus Boros, the Jesuit theologian whose bold vision of the moment of death we will return to in Chapter 13, puts it with striking force. For Boros, death is not the extinction of awareness. It is the moment of the most intense awareness a person has ever known. In death, the soul is stripped of every defense, every distraction. The whole meaning of one's life rises up at once, and the person faces God "in a last, final decision."20 We will develop Boros's "final decision" hypothesis more fully when we come to the threshold of death. For now, what matters is the conviction that underlies it: death does not end consciousness. It heightens it.

This grounds everything that follows. If the dead are conscious in the waiting realm, then God's saving presence can still reach them there. The intermediate state is not a sealed vault. It is a place where persons wait, aware and addressable. And that makes the question of what they experience in that state an urgent one. What awaits the conscious dead? What is the fire they face?

The Dead Are Still Persons

The Bible's picture of the intermediate state is not oblivion. The dead speak, feel, remember, and plead (Luke 16:19–31). Paul expects to "be with Christ" after death (Philippians 1:23). If the dead are still persons, then the question of whether God's offer can reach them remains open. A conscious soul in the waiting realm is a soul that can still be addressed by the God who is present even in Sheol (Psalm 139:7–8). The offer of grace does not expire at the last heartbeat. We will follow this thread in Chapter 13.

The Fire That Is God: The Divine-Presence Model

Now we come to the heart of this chapter. What is the fire?

The traditional picture says that hell is a place far from God, a place of divine absence. God sends the wicked away from himself, into outer darkness, into a created furnace designed for punishment. The fire is a thing, a force, a place. It is over there, and God is over here.

But what if that picture gets it exactly backward?

What if the fire is not a place far from God but the experience of God's own presence? What if the "consuming fire" the Bible describes is God himself?

This is the claim of the divine-presence model. The philosopher R. Zachary Manis develops it carefully in his book Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God. The core idea is simple enough to state: the same God whose presence is experienced as heaven by the reconciled is experienced as torment by those still in rebellion. There is no separate furnace. There is only God. The difference is in the person who meets him, not in God himself.21

On this view, writes Manis, hell is not "a place from which God is absent" but the opposite. It is the terrible weight of the divine presence bearing down on a soul that refuses it. The fire is the love of God. And for a person who has set his will against that love, the experience of being surrounded by it, unable to escape it, is torment.22

Let me put it more plainly. Think of sunlight. If your eyes are healthy, sunlight is a gift. It warms you. It lets you see. But if your eyes are diseased, the same light is agony. You squint. You turn away. You want the darkness back. The light has not changed. You have.

That is the divine-presence model in a sentence. God has not changed. His love is the same love that is heaven for the saints. But for the soul that hates love, that same love burns.

Manis makes a further point worth dwelling on. He observes that the Gospels themselves show us what the divine presence does to different kinds of sinners. When Jesus walked through Galilee, he drew tax collectors and prostitutes to himself. They were sinners, yet they came close and were changed. But the Pharisees, the self-righteous, the ones who most resisted the truth about themselves, found Jesus's presence intolerable. His words enraged them. His holiness exposed them. His very nearness made them want to kill him.22b

The same Jesus, the same love, the same presence. Two responses. One group ran toward the light and was healed. The other group ran from the light and was consumed by fury. This is the divine-presence model in miniature, played out in real time in the Gospel narratives. The difference was not in Jesus. The difference was in the hearts that met him.

The Divine-Presence Thesis

The "fire" of final judgment is not a created furnace far from God. It is God's own unveiled presence and love. The same holy presence is heaven for the reconciled and torment for those still in rebellion. The difference is not in God but in the one who meets him. God does not change. The rebel refuses the love that surrounds him, and the refusal itself is the agony. "For our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:29).

Manis in His Own Words

Manis himself is not a universalist. He defends a form of eternal punishment. That is important to note, because it means his argument for the divine-presence model does not come from a desire to soften hell. He is defending a view of hell that he believes is real, severe, and never-ending. His willingness to make the case despite reaching a different conclusion than I do gives his argument weight that a universalist source alone could not carry.23

In developing the model, Manis draws on a deep well of Christian thought. He notes that the view "is arguably an ancient view, and one that is prominent among contemporary Orthodox Christians."24 He offers two representative descriptions from introductory treatments of Orthodox eschatology:

The ultimate state of human beings, after the final judgment, is to behold the glory of God's love; for those whose inmost desire is longing for God, this will be ultimate fulfillment, ultimate bliss, but for those whose inmost desire is opposition to God . . . their inmost longing will be eternally frustrated; they will experience eternal torment.— Andrew Louth, "Eastern Orthodox Eschatology"25

And from Fr. Thomas Hopko, whose four-volume Orthodox Faith is endorsed by the Orthodox Church in America:

The final coming of Christ will be the judgment of all men. His very presence will be the judgment. . . . For those who love the Lord, His Presence will be infinite joy, paradise and eternal life. For those who hate the Lord, the same Presence will be infinite torture, hell and eternal death. . . . According to the saints, the "fire" that will consume sinners at the coming of the Kingdom of God is the same "fire" that will shine with splendor in the saints. It is the "fire" of God's love; the "fire" of God Himself who is Love.— Fr. Thomas Hopko, The Orthodox Faith26

Notice that these are not fringe voices. This is the mainstream of Eastern Orthodox theology, a tradition as old as the church itself.27

Manis on the Fire as God's Presence

Manis situates the divine-presence model within the broad Christian tradition, noting that its "core idea . . . lies squarely within the mainstream of Christian thought, advocated in the writings of some of the most influential Christian thinkers from the fathers up to the present day." On this model, "heaven and hell share a common source: 'the fire of God Himself who is Love,' as Fr. Hopko puts it. It is not that God fails to love the damned; rather, it is the very love of God that induces suffering in them."— R. Zachary Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250, 25628

The Bible's Own Language

Is this model rooted in the Bible, or is it just a philosophical construction? The objection is fair, and it deserves a direct answer. I believe the model is deeply biblical.

Start with the plainest statement. "For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God" (Deuteronomy 4:24). The writer of Hebrews echoes it: "For our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:29). God himself is the fire. The fire is not a created thing separate from God. It is a way of describing what it is to meet God while unprepared.29

Then consider Psalm 139:7–8, which we read earlier: "If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there." There is no place in the entire created order where God is absent. If the psalmist cannot flee God's presence even in the realm of the dead, then hell as a place of "separation from God" is a theological fiction. Whatever the lost experience, they experience it in God's presence, not outside it.30

And look at the curious phrasing of Revelation 14:10, one of the most fearsome judgment texts in the Bible: "He also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb." In the presence of the Lamb. Not in the absence of the Lamb. Not in some far-off corner where God cannot see. Right there, in the unveiled presence of Christ himself.31

The passage that pulls the whole picture together is 2 Thessalonians 1:9. In most translations it reads, "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord." That reading seems to support the traditional "banishment" view: the lost are cast away from God's face. But the Greek phrase (Greek apo prosōpou tou kyriou, "from the face/presence of the Lord") can also be read differently. Manis and others argue that apo here means "from" in the sense of source, not distance. The destruction comes from the face of the Lord, the way heat comes from a furnace. The presence of the Lord is not what the lost are banished from; it is what the destruction proceeds from.32 We will return to this verse in detail in Chapter 18, where the wrath-and-destruction texts receive their full treatment.

When we read these texts together, a picture emerges. God is present in Sheol. God is the consuming fire. The torment of the lost happens in the presence of the Lamb. And the destruction comes from the Lord's face, not away from it. The divine-presence model is not a modern invention. It is the Bible's own testimony, pieced together carefully.33

One more point from Manis that ties the geography to the model. Manis suggests that Sheol and Hades may exist precisely because God has mercifully withdrawn a portion of his full presence from the dead. Hades is a waiting place where the not-yet-reconciled soul experiences "a degree of divine absence that is comparable to their earthly lives." This is, Manis proposes, the mercy of Hades: "It postpones an encounter with the divine presence that is constitutive of final judgment."33b In other words, God is holding back his full glory so the dead are not overwhelmed by it before they are ready. When Hades is finally destroyed and the dead are raised, that mercy ends. The full presence arrives, and there is no more buffer. That is the final judgment. That is the lake of fire.

The River of Fire: An Ancient Tradition

If the divine-presence model seems unfamiliar to Western Christians, it is because the Western tradition has been shaped more by Augustine and by medieval imagery (Dante's Inferno, for instance) than by the older Eastern reading. But in the Eastern Orthodox tradition, this understanding of the fire is ancient and widespread.34

One of the most striking expressions comes from Alexander Kalomiros, whose influential essay The River of Fire changed how a generation of Orthodox thinkers talked about judgment. Kalomiros draws on the icon of the Last Judgment, a standard piece of Orthodox Christian art. In the icon, Christ sits on the throne at the center. On his right are the blessed. On his left, the condemned. And from the throne itself flows a river of fire, moving toward both groups at once.35

What is that river? As Kalomiros reads it, the river of fire is identical to "the river which came out from Eden to water the paradise of old" (Genesis 2:10). It is the outpouring of God's grace. It is the love of God. And it treats the two groups differently, not because the river has two natures, but because the people who stand in it have two dispositions. As Kalomiros puts it: "Love is fire. Anyone who loves knows this. God is Love, so God is Fire. And fire consumes all those who are not fire themselves, and renders bright and shining all those who are fire themselves."36

The early church fathers taught the same thing. St. Basil of Caesarea wrote in the fourth century:

I believe that the fire prepared for the punishment of the devil and his angels is divided by the voice of the Lord. Thus, since there are two capacities in fire, one of burning and the other of illuminating, the fierce and scourging property of the fire may await those who deserve to burn, while illuminating and radiant warmth may be reserved for the enjoyment of those who are rejoicing.— St. Basil of Caesarea, as quoted by Manis37

And the seventh-century St. Isaac of Nineveh, one of the most beloved figures in the Eastern Christian tradition, wrote of those in Gehenna being "chastised with the scourge of love," and that "the sorrow which takes hold of the heart which has sinned against love, is more piercing than any other pain."38

Look at the Daniel connection as well. In Daniel 7:9–10, the prophet sees the Ancient of Days seated on a throne, and "a stream of fire issued and came out from before him." In Revelation 22:1, John sees "the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb." Manis notes the striking parallel: "Both a river of fire and a river of water, it seems, proceed from the throne of the Lamb. On the divine presence model, these two 'rivers' are identical; they are in fact one and the same reality."39 The river of fire and the river of the water of life are one river. The difference is in the one who drinks, not in the water itself.

Even Jerry Walls, the Western philosopher whose work on optimal grace we will meet in Chapter 14, endorses elements of the model. Walls observes that "fire in the Bible is a common image for the presence of God, not his absence," and points to the Orthodox tradition that identifies the lake of fire and the river of the water of life as "flowing from the same source, the throne of the Lamb."40

The tradition is deep. It is patristic. It is biblical. And it comes from voices across the Christian spectrum, not just from universalists.

Even in the Western tradition, which has been shaped more by Augustine and Aquinas, flickers of the divine-presence model appear. Martin Luther, in his Commentary on the Psalms, wrote: "The fiery oven is ignited merely by the unbearable appearance of God and endures eternally. . . . Not as though the ungodly see God and His appearance as the godly will see Him; but they will feel the power of His presence, which they will not be able to bear, and yet will be forced to bear."40b Luther is not usually listed among the defenders of this model. But his words show that the core insight, that the fire is God's own presence, surfaces even in the mainstream of Western Protestantism. Manis is right to say that "the core idea of the divine presence model lies squarely within the mainstream of Christian thought."40c

The Icon and the River

In the Orthodox icon of the Last Judgment, a river of fire flows from Christ's throne toward both the blessed and the condemned. The river is the love of God. The blessed shine in it. The condemned are scorched. The image is not merely artistic. It reflects a theology rooted in the church fathers: the fire of judgment is God's own love, experienced differently by the reconciled and the rebellious. As Vladimir Lossky writes, "The love of God will be an intolerable torment for those who have not acquired it within themselves."

Why This Changes Everything

If the divine-presence model is right, the whole question of whether God can reach the lost changes shape.

On the traditional picture, hell is a place of divine absence. God has sent the wicked away. They are beyond his reach. The door is closed. There is nothing more God can do, because God is not there. That picture makes "will God save all?" a spatial question: can God get to them? And the answer, on the traditional map, is no. He has removed himself.

But if the fire is God's presence, then there is no place outside it. The lost are not beyond God's reach. They are in his arms. They are surrounded by his love. The love is what burns them, because they refuse it. And the question is no longer "Can God reach them?" The question becomes: "How long will they resist the love that is already there?"41

That is a very different question. And it has a very different range of answers.

If hell is the experience of resisting infinite Love, then the rebel in hell is not locked in a dungeon from which there is no exit. He is locked in his own refusal, surrounded by the very love that could set him free, if only he would stop fighting it. The door is not locked from the outside. It is barred from within. And the love keeps knocking.

C. S. Lewis caught something of this in The Great Divorce, where hell's residents are free to leave but refuse because the light of heaven is too painful for them. Lewis was not a universalist. But his instinct was right: the barrier is internal, not external. The lost are not kept out. They keep themselves in. And the question of whether they will ever stop keeping themselves in is, on the divine-presence model, a question about the perseverance of God's love, not about the height of the walls.

Here is where I part from the traditional conclusion. The traditional reading says that the resistance can last forever, that a soul can set its will against God for all eternity. I believe that is possible in the strictest logical sense. But I do not believe it is probable, and I certainly do not believe it is inevitable. Not when the love in question is infinite. Not when the God behind it knows every heart perfectly. Not when eternity gives him as long as he needs. This is a conviction, not a proof. I develop it more fully in Chapter 14 and face the hardest objection honestly in Chapter 23.

Manis himself, as I said, does not follow the argument to a universalist conclusion. He believes the resistance can be permanent, that some souls may set their wills against God forever. I respect that conclusion, even as I disagree with it. My own conviction, for reasons I will develop in those later chapters, is that a God with perfect love, perfect knowledge, and all of eternity can win a free "yes" from every heart. But the divine-presence model gives that conviction its theological home. If the fire is God, and God never stops loving, then the fire is a love that never stops reaching for the person in it.42

Objection: "Doesn't This Make God the Tormentor?"

If hell is God's presence, then is God the one causing the suffering? Is he tormenting the lost? This is a fair objection, and I want to answer it carefully. No. The torment is not love's intent. It is the rebel's experience of refusing love. Think of a person with a terrible infection, and a surgeon whose hands carry healing. The surgery hurts, but the hurt comes from the infection, not from the surgeon's cruelty. The surgeon's hands are doing the only thing that can save the patient. In the same way, God's presence is not designed to torture. It is designed to heal. The one in the fire suffers because he grips his sin like a man gripping a burning coal. The pain would end the moment he lets go. God does not change. The rebel does.

And consider this: the traditional model has a much harder version of this problem. If God creates a special furnace for the purpose of tormenting the lost, and keeps them alive in it forever with no hope of healing, that looks far more like deliberate cruelty than the divine-presence model does. On the traditional view, God designed the torment. On the divine-presence model, God designed the love. The torment is what happens when love meets refusal. The difference matters.43

What Is the Fire For?

If the fire is God's own love, then a question presses in: what is the fire aiming at?

On the traditional view, the fire's purpose is punishment. Retribution. The wicked are paid back for their sins. The fire is a sentence, not a treatment.

But on the universalist reading I will develop fully in Chapter 12, the fire's purpose is not endless retribution. It is purification. The fire burns away the evil in each person, the way a refiner's fire purifies gold by consuming the dross. The fire is severe, yes. But it is working toward something. It aims at healing, not at endless hurt.44

I will not develop the restorative-fire case here. That belongs to Chapter 12, where Sharon Baker's work on restorative justice and the biblical imagery of the refiner's fire carry the argument. But I want to preview the connection, because the divine-presence model and the purifying-fire model fit together like two halves of a single picture.

The divine-presence model tells us what the fire is: God's love. The purifying-fire model tells us what the fire does: it heals. Put them together, and you get a vision of judgment that is both terrifying and hopeful. The fire is real. The pain is real. But the fire is the presence of the One who will not stop loving, and its aim is to burn away everything in us that stands between us and God, until there is nothing left but a person who can finally say yes.

Paul hints at this in 1 Corinthians 3:13–15, where he describes a fire that tests each person's work. The fire burns up wood, hay, and straw, but the person himself is saved, "yet so as through fire." The person survives the fire. The dross does not. That is a purifying fire, not a punishing one. And it fits the divine-presence model perfectly: the fire of God's presence burns away what is false, painful as that process is, and what remains is the person God made and loves.44b

Manis himself notes how the model accounts for the destruction of death at the end of Revelation. When Hades is thrown into the lake of fire, the lake of fire does not destroy people. It destroys death. It destroys separation. As Manis writes, the destruction of Hades means "the separation of body and soul no longer is possible. . . . When His presence becomes inescapable, Hades is swallowed up in the being of God."45 The lake of fire is, in the end, the death of death. It is the fire that consumes death itself (1 Corinthians 15:26). That should give us pause before we use the image to argue for endless torment. The very text that introduces the lake of fire shows death itself being destroyed in it. That is a story of ending, not of endlessness.

Other Voices on the Geography

The reading I have sketched here is not mine alone. It draws on a growing body of scholarship that takes the Bible's own geography of the dead seriously.

David Bentley Hart, the Eastern Orthodox theologian whose translation of the New Testament and whose book That All Shall Be Saved have reshaped the conversation about universalism, presses the point about Hades as a temporary realm. In his second meditation, Hart insists that no word in the New Testament maps onto the English word "hell" in the way most readers assume. Hades is not the final state; it is the abode of the dead between death and resurrection. Gehenna is a prophetic image rooted in a literal valley. The "lake of fire" is Revelation's own symbol, explicitly glossed as "the second death." Hart argues that conventional translation practices bear much of the blame for the confusion: the "custom of using the single English word 'hell' as a collective translation for Gehenna, Hades, and Tartarus" has trained readers to see a picture the original texts do not paint. He has even seen translations that abandon this practice — his own among them — accused of "attempting to expel the traditional picture of hell from the text," when in truth such translators have merely rescued distinctions of meaning already present in the original Greek.46

Hart goes further. He argues that "the texts of the gospels simply make no obvious claim about a place or state of endless suffering," and that the "complete absence of any such notion in the Pauline corpus (or, for that matter, in John’s gospel, or in the other New Testament epistles, or in the earliest Christian documents of the post-apostolic church)" makes the very concept "nearly as historically suspect as it is morally repellant." The variety and apparent incompatibility of the metaphors Jesus used — barred doors, outer darkness, wails of despair, teeth grinding in frustration — amount to what Hart calls an "intentionally heterogeneous phantasmagory, meant as much to disorient as to instruct," not a dogmatic blueprint for the conditions of the world to come. Reading back into these images either the traditional view of dual eternal destinies or the developed medieval distinction between "Hell" and "Purgatory" would be, Hart argues, a "mere dogmatic reflex" or a "feat of pure historical illiteracy."46b

Hart also insists, as the Orthodox tradition does, that the fire of judgment is not a separate created thing but the divine glory itself. His point is linguistic as much as theological: the New Testament authors had no concept of an eternal torture chamber existing alongside God's perfect kingdom. What they had was a set of images, drawn from the Old Testament, about what it means to meet a holy God while still in rebellion. Hart's contribution is to read those images in the light of the Eastern Christian tradition rather than the Western medieval one, and the result is a picture much closer to the divine-presence model than to Dante's Inferno.46c

David Burnfield, in his Patristic Universalism, traces the early church's understanding of Hades and the afterlife realms. Burnfield shows that the earliest Christian readers did not read the judgment texts through the lens of medieval hell. They read them in light of the Old Testament's Sheol, the Septuagint's Hades, and the hope of the resurrection. For the fathers, the realm of the dead was a temporary holding place, not a final destination. And Christ's own descent into Hades (which we will explore in Chapter 13) was the proof that death posed no barrier to the Savior's reach. Burnfield devotes an entire chapter to scriptural support for mercy beyond the grave, tracing the descent passages (1 Peter 3:18–20; 4:6; Ephesians 4:8–9) and their implications for the geography of the dead. He also treats the purpose and duration of hell in a separate chapter, arguing from texts like 1 Corinthians 3:12–14 and Mark 9:49 that the fire is purificatory, and that God's anger is measured, momentary, and restorative rather than endless.47

Burnfield's patristic survey shows that the divine-presence model is not a modern invention grafted onto ancient texts. It is the older reading, the one the Eastern fathers held before the Western tradition hardened around a different set of images. The view that hell is a created place of divine absence, separate from God, is the later development. The view that the fire is God himself is the earlier one, attested in Basil, in Isaac of Nineveh, in Gregory of Nyssa, and in the iconographic tradition that is still alive in Eastern Christianity today. In his chapter on answering objections, Burnfield engages the strongest traditionalist counter-arguments — including the claim that aiōnios always means "eternal" and that Origen was condemned as a heretic — and demonstrates that the early church's witness was broader and more hopeful than the later medieval consensus allows.47b

These voices reinforce the central claim of this chapter: the Bible's geography of the dead is richer and more varied than the word "hell" allows. When we recover that geography, the fire turns out to be God himself, the dead turn out to be conscious, and the question of whether God can reach the lost turns out to have been answered before it was asked. He is already there.

A Real and Terrible Judgment

The divine-presence model does not soften judgment. It sharpens it. Meeting the unveiled holiness of God while clinging to sin is a genuine horror. It is worse, not better, than a created furnace, because there is no corner of reality where the rebel can hide from the One he has offended. This is not the sentimentalism that empties hell of all terror (see Chapter 2). This is the conviction that the fire is real and severe, because it is God himself, and God is holy. What the divine-presence model changes is not the severity of the fire but its aim. The fire is not a sentence without end. It is a love without end. And love's aim is not to destroy the sinner but to destroy the sin (see Chapter 12).

The God Who Is Already There

We began this chapter with a flat map: heaven up, hell down. The Bible's map is more complex. Sheol is the Old Testament holding place of all the dead. Hades is its New Testament counterpart, a temporary waiting realm that is itself destroyed at the end. Gehenna is Jesus's vivid prophetic image, drawn from a real valley of fire and disgrace. The lake of fire is Revelation's symbolic climax, glossed as "the second death" and the place where Death itself is thrown. These are not synonyms. They are stages on a map that tells a story.

The dead, on this map, are conscious. They speak. They feel. They remember. The waiting realm is not oblivion. And because they are conscious, they can still be reached.

The fire itself is not a thing apart from God. It is God's own love, God's own holy presence, experienced as unbearable torment by the soul that refuses it. This is not a modern construction. It is the reading of the Eastern fathers. It is the testimony of Basil, of Isaac of Nineveh, of the great tradition of Orthodox iconography. And it is grounded in the Bible's own language: God is a consuming fire. God is present even in Sheol. The torment of the lost happens in the presence of the Lamb.

If all of this is true, then the question changes. The question is no longer "Can God reach the lost?" He is already there. He is the fire itself. The question is "How long will they resist a love that never stops?" That is a question with a much more hopeful answer. And the answer begins to emerge in the next chapter, where we ask what the fire is for.

I know this will feel strange to some readers. We have lived so long with the two-room picture that anything else seems like a trick. But ask yourself this: which picture takes the Bible more seriously? The one that uses a single English word for four different concepts? Or the one that reads each word in its own language, traces its own history, and listens to what the text actually says?

And ask yourself a harder question: which picture takes God more seriously? A God who builds a furnace far away from himself and stuffs it with people he made? Or a God who is the fire, whose love fills every corner of reality, whose holy presence is itself the judgment, and whose aim in that judgment is to burn away everything that keeps his children from coming home?

I know which picture sounds more like the God I meet in Scripture. The God who went looking for Adam in the garden. The God who wrestled with Jacob all night. The God who descended into the grave itself to preach to the dead. That God is not absent from the fire. He is the fire. And he is already there, waiting, shining, burning with a love that will not let go.

Stay with that. It will carry us the rest of the way home.

Notes

1. R. Zachary Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God: An Essay on the Problem of Hell (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2019). Manis introduces the term "divine presence model" to describe a view of hell in which the suffering of the damned is caused by the presence of God rather than by his absence; see esp. ch. 7, "The Divine Presence Model."

2. The count of sixty-five occurrences follows the standard enumeration in the Hebrew Bible, which includes both clear references (e.g., Genesis 37:35; Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 14:9) and debated passages. The semantic range of she’ol overlaps with "grave" in some contexts and "the underworld" in others.

3. Psalm 139:7–12 is one of the most important texts for the divine-presence model. If God's presence extends to the uttermost reaches of the created order, including the realm of the dead, then the concept of hell as a place of "divine absence" is difficult to reconcile with the Bible's own testimony.

3b. Hunter Coates, Grace Abounds: A Holistic Case for Universal Salvation (Resource Publications / Wipf & Stock, 2024), ch. 6 (“The Hell That Never Was”). Coates observes that the concept of Sheol derives from the belief of ancient Jews in a realm of the dead and is “certainly not the Anglo-Saxon rendition of ‘hell’ that so many want to read into the OT.” He notes that while there is no clear indication of torture or torment in Sheol, it is cosmologically opposed to heaven: “Heaven is above, the earth is below, and Sheol is below the earth.” Coates also discusses the tension between the view that all go to Sheol and the view that only the wicked are destined for it (citing Isaiah 5:14; Psalm 9:17; Job 21:13), showing that the Old Testament itself does not present a single, tidy picture.

4. The Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, ca. third to second century BC) consistently renders she’ol as Hadēs. The New Testament writers inherited this equivalence. On the Greek term, see BDAG, s.v. αιδης: "the nether world, Hades, the abode of the dead."

5. The distinction between Hades and the lake of fire is explicit in Revelation 20:13–14. Hades gives up the dead who are in it, then Hades itself is thrown into the lake of fire. This sequence makes no sense if the two are identical. Hades is the temporary realm; the lake of fire is the final state. See Gregory MacDonald (Robin Parry), The Evangelical Universalist, ch. 5, for a careful reading of Revelation's internal structure on this point.

6. BDAG, s.v. γεεννα: "a place of punishment for the ungodly after death," from the Hebrew gē hinnōm, "Valley of Hinnom." Jesus uses the term in Matthew 5:22, 29–30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43, 45, 47; Luke 12:5. The one non-Jesus occurrence is James 3:6.

7. On the history of the Valley of Hinnom and its association with child sacrifice, see 2 Chronicles 28:3 (Ahaz); 2 Chronicles 33:6 (Manasseh); 2 Kings 23:10 (Josiah's reformation, closing the site). Jeremiah's oracles against the valley (Jeremiah 7:29–34; 19:1–15) cemented its association with divine judgment. See Sharon L. Baker, Razing Hell (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox, 2010), 129–30, for a vivid historical reconstruction.

8. The tradition that Gehenna served as Jerusalem's garbage dump is widespread in popular teaching. Its historical basis has been debated; see Baker, Razing Hell, 129–30, for the received tradition, and Lloyd R. Bailey, "Gehenna: The Topography of Hell," Biblical Archaeologist 49 (1986): 187–91, for a more cautious assessment. Whether or not the dump tradition is fully historical, the association of the Valley of Hinnom with fire, death, and disgrace is firmly rooted in the prophetic texts.

9. Gregory MacDonald (Robin Parry) notes that the background to Jesus's Gehenna imagery is Isaiah 66:24, where the dead bodies of Yahweh's enemies are consumed by worms and fires outside Jerusalem: "In the Isaiah passage the dead are not those in hell suffering eternal, conscious torment but are the corpses of Yahweh's enemies heaped up being consumed by fires and worms." MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, ch. 6.

9b. Baker emphasizes the figurative and hyperbolic character of Jesus's Gehenna language: "Middle Eastern cultures commonly used figurative language, the most explicitly vivid metaphorical language they could find, to make an important point. . . . The same holds true for the language about Gehenna or, as we translate it, 'hell.'" Baker, Razing Hell, 136.

9c. George Sidney Hurd, The Triumph of Mercy: The Reconciliation of All through Jesus Christ (2014; 2nd ed. 2018), ch. “Gehenna Fire.” Hurd traces the intertestamental development of the Gehenna concept under Persian influence, noting that “the Jewish Gehenna was used by the early Rabbis to refer to a place of fiery purification, which aligned with the Zoroastrian belief in a fiery region in the afterlife that was for purification, and therefore, only lasted as long as was necessary in order to purify sinners.” The overwhelming majority of rabbinic thought maintains that people are not in Gehenna forever; the longest that one can be there is said to be twelve months. See also the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, rev. ed., s.v. “Gehenna.”

9d. Gerry Beauchemin, Hope Beyond Hell: The Righteous Purpose of God’s Judgment, ch. 3. Beauchemin notes that Jesus’s first mention of Gehenna (Matthew 5:21–22) comes in the context of his confirmation of the Mosaic code of proportional justice: “An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth” (Matthew 5:38, derived from Exodus 21:24). “This code established that each crime merits a just and fit punishment, one obviously measurable.” If Christ understood Gehenna to be everlasting, Beauchemin argues, “He could not have associated it with the Mosaic code. What is measurable about everlasting?” Jesus also confirmed that the same measure we use on others will be used on us (Matthew 7:2), which is inconsistent with infinite and immeasurable punishment for finite sins.

10. Gehenna appears in Matthew 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43, 45, 47; Luke 12:5; and James 3:6. All except James 3:6 are on the lips of Jesus.

10b. Hurd, The Triumph of Mercy, ch. “Gehenna Fire.” Hurd observes: “In the entire book of Acts, which records numerous evangelistic messages, there is not even one warning of hell. Paul, in all of his epistles, only mentions by name Hades in order to declare Christ’s victory over it, and the New Testament ends with the keys of Hades in Christ’s hands and Hades being cast into the lake of fire along with death.” Hurd’s point reinforces the argument of this chapter: if the traditional doctrine of hell were as central to the apostolic gospel as later tradition has made it, the near-total silence on the subject in the church’s foundational preaching is inexplicable.

11. The phrase limnē tou pyros ("lake of fire") is unique to Revelation. It does not appear elsewhere in the New Testament or in the Septuagint. On the symbolism, see MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, ch. 5.

12. On the open gates and the healing of the nations, see Revelation 21:25 ("its gates will never be shut by day—and there will be no night there") and 22:2 ("the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations"). The full treatment of these texts belongs to Chapter 9.

13. The King James Version (1611) translates both Hadēs and geenna as "hell" in most cases, and even renders Tartaros (2 Peter 2:4) and occasionally she’ol as "hell." Modern translations have improved on this practice (the ESV, for instance, transliterates Gehenna and often renders Hadēs as "Hades"), but the popular understanding still tends to flatten all judgment terms into a single "hell."

13b. Samuel Cox, as discussed in Robin A. Parry with Ilaria L. E. Ramelli, A Larger Hope?, Volume 2: Universal Salvation from the Reformation to the Nineteenth Century (Eugene, OR: Cascade / Wipf & Stock, 2019). Cox argued that all three terms — Tartarus, Hades, and Gehenna — refer to the intermediate state, not one’s final destiny. His survey of Second Temple Jewish uses of Gehenna showed that some Gehenna texts envisaged annihilation, others envisaged salvation from Gehenna, some set the duration at twelve months, some at a day. Cox concluded: “‘The propositions which they contain are so variable and unstable’ that ‘no firm and unshifting dogma may be deduced from them’ as to the future punishment of the guilty.” The rabbis did not believe in a material fire, and they thought this fire would one day be extinguished. This historical survey strengthens the case that the English word “hell” imports a uniformity that the original terms never carried.

14. The objection that drawing lexical distinctions is special pleading presupposes that the distinctions do not exist. But they do: she’ol, Hadēs, geenna, and limnē tou pyros are four different words with four different referents. Observing that fact is basic lexicography, not special pleading.

14b. The treatment of the age-language (aiōn, aiōnios, and Hebrew ’olam) and what those words actually mean belongs to Chapter 10. The distinction between the geography of the dead (this chapter) and the duration-language (Chapter 10) is important: recovering the map and recovering the words are two different operations, and both are needed before the traditional picture of "eternal hell" can be properly evaluated.

15. Luke 16:19–31. In this chapter, I use the passage for what it teaches about the geography and consciousness of the intermediate state. The "great chasm" objection (“between us and you a great chasm has been fixed,” v. 26) and the question of whether it forecloses any movement between the two sides receive their full treatment in Chapter 16.

16. Manis makes the point that on the divine-presence model, Sheol/Hades may serve as a kind of mercy: "It postpones an encounter with the divine presence that is constitutive of final judgment." Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 383.

17. On the parabolic nature of Luke 16:19–31, see, e.g., the discussion in I. Howard Marshall, The Gospel of Luke: A Commentary on the Greek Text, New International Greek Testament Commentary (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1978), 632–39. Many scholars classify the passage as a parable; others note that it is the only parable in which a character is given a proper name (Lazarus), which may suggest a different literary function.

18. Jesus tells the story using the shared assumptions of his audience about the intermediate state (conscious, divided, awaiting judgment) without correcting those assumptions. This does not prove every detail is doctrinal, but it does indicate that the picture of the dead as conscious was one Jesus found serviceable.

19. 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23. Manis notes the qualifier: "the New Testament does not paint a clear picture as to the state of believers between death and resurrection," but Paul's language strongly suggests continued conscious existence. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 383 n168.

19b. 1 Samuel 28:3–20. The story of Saul and the medium at Endor is one of the strangest narratives in the Old Testament, and opinions vary on what exactly happened. But the text itself portrays Samuel as conscious, identifiable, and able to communicate. At minimum, the passage assumes a worldview in which the dead retain their identity. See, e.g., Ralph W. Klein, 1 Samuel, Word Biblical Commentary 10 (Waco, TX: Word, 1983), 270–76.

19c. Revelation 6:9–11. The "souls under the altar" are conscious, speaking, and aware of events on earth. They are given white robes and told to wait. Whatever the symbolism of the altar, the passage treats the dead as persons, not as extinguished lights. See G. K. Beale, The Book of Revelation, NIGTC (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1999), 390–93.

20. Ladislaus Boros, The Mystery of Death, trans. from the German (New York: Herder and Herder, 1965), pp. xlviii–xlix. Boros’s thesis: “Death gives man the opportunity of posing his first completely personal act; death is, therefore, by reason of its very being, the moment above all others for the awakening of consciousness, for freedom, for the encounter with God, for the final decision about his eternal destiny.” The full development of Boros's hypothesis belongs to Chapter 13.

21. Manis introduces the view: “On this view—which, for lack of any standard name, I will term the divine presence model—it is the very being of God that the wicked experience as hell.” Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250.

22. The inescapability is central to the model. Manis quotes Vladimir Lossky: “The love of God will be an intolerable torment for those who have not acquired it within themselves.” Vladimir Lossky, The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church (Crestwood, NY: St. Vladimir’s Seminary Press, 1997), 234; quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 257.

22b. Manis devotes a section of his appendix to "Jesus and the Pharisees," observing that "Jesus's words and presence seem to elicit such widely different reactions from those who encounter him." Sinners were drawn to Jesus and found conviction and repentance; the self-righteous Pharisees "are offended at Jesus and whose encounters with him elicit indignation, self-deception, and even murderous rage." Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 359.

23. Manis's own conclusion is a form of eternal conscious torment: the damned experience the presence of God as suffering forever. I embrace his model of the fire while reaching the universalist conclusion he does not. That his concessions come from a non-universalist gives them independent weight.

24. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250.

25. Andrew Louth, “Eastern Orthodox Eschatology,” in The Oxford Handbook of Eschatology, ed. Jerry L. Walls (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2008), 242; quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250.

26. Thomas Hopko, The Orthodox Faith: An Elementary Handbook on the Orthodox Church, vol. 4: Spirituality (New York: Department of Religious Education, Orthodox Church in America, 1976), 196–97; quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 251.

27. Manis situates the model in a tradition running from the church fathers to the present. He notes (251) that among those cited in support of the divine-presence model are St. Basil the Great, St. Isaac of Nineveh, and St. Symeon the New Theologian, among others. The view is not an innovation but a recovery of an older reading.

28. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250 (the tradition), 256 (the common source). In context, Manis is arguing that the divine-presence model avoids the "theological double-mindedness" of traditionalist views that account for heaven solely by reference to God's love and hell solely by reference to God's justice. On the divine-presence model, heaven and hell share a single source: God's love.

29. Deuteronomy 4:24; Hebrews 12:29. The Hebrews passage echoes the Deuteronomy text and applies it to the Christian community. The writer's point is that the God the new covenant community worships is the same consuming fire who confronted Israel at Sinai.

30. A similar point can be drawn from Acts 17:28, where Paul quotes the pagan poet Epimenides: “In him we live and move and have our being.” If all creatures exist within God's sustaining presence, then a hell defined as "separation from God" would be a place where existence itself is impossible.

31. Revelation 14:10. The phrase “in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb” (Greek enōpion tōn hagiōn agelōn kai enōpion tou arniou) is remarkable and often overlooked. The torment is not in a distant place away from God; it happens before the Lamb himself. Manis notes (p. 319) that Jerry Walls also recognizes this text as pointing toward the divine-presence model.

32. On 2 Thessalonians 1:9 and the apo prosōpou tou kyriou reading, see Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, ch. 7 and the appendix. The preposition apo can indicate source or origin (“from, proceeding from”) rather than separation (“away from”). If the destruction proceeds from the Lord's face, the verse supports the divine-presence model. This reading is defended at length in Chapter 18.

33. Manis concludes his appendix (“Is the Model Biblical?”) by arguing that the divine-presence model can accommodate the full spectrum of biblical teaching on the afterlife, from the Old Testament Sheol texts to the New Testament judgment passages. See Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, ch. 9 (appendix).

33b. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 383. The full passage: “This may be the mercy of Sheol/Hades, and the reason that God creates it: it postpones an encounter with the divine presence that is constitutive of final judgment.” Manis develops this idea in connection with the destruction of Hades at the second coming (Revelation 20:13–14).

34. On the Western tradition's departure from the divine-presence model, see Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250, who notes that the view is “mostly absent from the contemporary philosophical discussion in the West” despite being “arguably an ancient view.”

35. Alexander Kalomiros, The River of Fire: A Reply to the Questions: Is God Really Good? Did God Create Hell? (Seattle: St. Nectarios, 1980). Kalomiros's essay, originally a lecture, became one of the most widely read popular treatments of the divine-presence model in the English-speaking Orthodox world. The iconographic reference is at pp. 30–33.

36. Kalomiros, River of Fire, 33; quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 252–53.

37. St. Basil, as quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 254. Manis cites the passage to show that the core idea of the divine-presence model has patristic roots.

38. St. Isaac of Syria, Mystic Treatises, as quoted in Vladimir Lossky, The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church (Crestwood, NY: St. Vladimir’s Seminary Press, 1997), 234; also quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 254.

39. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 389. The juxtaposition of Daniel 7:9–10 and Revelation 22:1–5 is one of the most suggestive biblical arguments for the divine-presence model.

40. Jerry Walls, Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory: Rethinking the Things That Matter Most (Grand Rapids, MI: Brazos, 2015), 84–86; discussed in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 319. Walls quotes David Bentley Hart on the Orthodox tradition that “makes no distinction, essentially, between the fire of hell and the light of God’s glory.”

40b. Martin Luther, Commentary on the Psalms, as quoted in Edward William Fudge and Robert A. Peterson, Two Views of Hell: A Biblical and Theological Dialogue (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 2000), 122; cited in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 255.

40c. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 255–56. Manis cites Luther, Basil, Isaac, and Symeon to show that the divine-presence model “is not simply an ad hoc solution introduced to address the philosophical and theological problems that we have found to plague the standard views of hell.”

41. This is the central implication of the divine-presence model for the universal hope. If the lost are not beyond God's reach but are, in fact, immersed in his love, then the question shifts from God's ability to reach them to the duration of their resistance.

42. Thomas Talbott makes a similar point: a God of infinite love and infinite resourcefulness can, over the course of eternity, win a free response from every heart without coercion. See Talbott, The Inescapable Love of God, ch. 13. The full treatment of the free-will question belongs to Chapter 23.

43. Manis himself makes this argument: the divine-presence model avoids the “theological double-mindedness” of explaining heaven by God’s love and hell by God’s justice. On the divine-presence model, both are explained by the same reality: God’s love. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 256.

44. The purifying-fire and restorative-justice case is developed fully in Chapter 12, drawing on Sharon L. Baker, Razing Hell, and Jerry L. Walls, Purgatory: The Logic of Total Transformation (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2012).

44b. 1 Corinthians 3:13–15 (ESV): “Each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” Paul’s fire here is plainly purgative: the fire burns up work, not persons. The person is saved through the fire. This is the prototype of the purifying-fire reading developed in Chapter 12.

45. Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 385. Manis argues that when Christ's presence fully “invades” Hades at the second coming, the separation of body and soul that constituted death is ended, and with it the “mercy of Sheol/Hades” that postponed full confrontation with the divine presence.

46. David Bentley Hart, That All Shall Be Saved: Heaven, Hell, and Universal Salvation (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2019), second meditation. Hart's argument about translation practices is pointed: translators who have "merely rescued distinctions in meaning present in the original Greek" have been accused of expelling hell from Scripture; in reality, the traditional picture was imported by the translation, not native to the text. His observation that the Pauline corpus, John's Gospel, the other epistles, and the earliest post-apostolic documents (the Didache, the Apostolic Fathers) lack any concept of a place or state of endless suffering is significant for the geography of the dead, since it shows how thin the biblical foundation for the traditional "hell" actually is.

46b. Hart, That All Shall Be Saved, second meditation. The full passage on the eschatological imagery: Hart argues that Jesus’s metaphors for the age to come — locked doors, outer darkness, wails of despair, teeth grinding — constitute an “intentionally heterogeneous phantasmagory, meant as much to disorient as to instruct,” and that the variety and apparent incompatibility of these images should serve as “a prohibition upon any dogmatic pronouncements on the matter.” He further notes that Jesus’s condemnations had a “very particular social and (in the broadest sense) political aspect”: they were “aimed principally at the rich and powerful” who exploited the weak, the poor, and the imprisoned.

46c. Hart develops the Eastern tradition’s understanding of the divine glory as fire at length in The Beauty of the Infinite: The Aesthetics of Christian Truth (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 2003), 399. Walls quotes Hart on the Orthodox tradition that “makes no distinction, essentially, between the fire of hell and the light of God’s glory, and that interprets damnation as the soul’s resistance to the beauty of God’s glory, its refusal to open itself before the divine love.” See Walls, Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, 85–86; Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 319.

47. David Burnfield, Patristic Universalism: An Alternative to the Traditional View of Divine Judgment, 2nd ed. (Charleston, SC: CreateSpace, 2016). Burnfield’s chapter on “Scriptural Support for Mercy Beyond the Grave” (ch. 5) treats the descent passages (1 Peter 3:18–20; 4:6; Ephesians 4:8–9; Isaiah 9:2; 49:9, 25), tracing the early church’s reading of Christ’s descent and its implications for the geography of the dead. His chapter on “Hell: Its Purpose and Its Duration” (ch. 6) develops the purificatory reading of the fire from texts including Psalm 107:10–13, Isaiah 19:19–25, Ezekiel 16:61–63, Mark 9:49, and 1 Corinthians 3:12–14, and argues from Psalm 30:5, Psalm 77:7–9, and Lamentations 3:31–32 that God’s anger is momentary and his mercy restorative.

47b. On the antiquity of the divine-presence model and its roots in the Eastern fathers, see Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 250–56, where he traces the tradition through Basil of Caesarea, Isaac of Nineveh, Symeon the New Theologian, Gregory of Nyssa (tentatively), and the broader Orthodox iconographic tradition. Zachary Hayes notes that Gregory of Nyssa wrote of “the way in which God draws the human person into the divine presence” and “the reality of sin and guilt in the person that makes the divine attraction itself painful.” See Zachary Hayes, as quoted in Manis, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, 254 n11. Burnfield’s engagement with the patristic witness runs through several chapters. His chapter on “Answering Objections” (ch. 7) addresses the aiōnios objection, the Origen question, and the claim that universalism is a recent invention, and in his “Historical Support of the Early Church” section he surveys Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and Gregory of Nyssa, showing that the early church’s reading of the afterlife texts was more diverse and more hopeful than the medieval tradition that hardened after Augustine.